ASP.NET MVC Support with Visual Web Developer 2008 Express

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• Hello Scott,
  
  IronRuby now runs rails as per demonstration at RailsConf 2008. This is a major milestone achieved by MSFT.
  
  Congratulations to your team. Now Asp.Net will be used by 4 communities (1) C# (2) VB.Net (3) IronRuby and (4) IronPython.
  
  I would like to know more about your plans for supporting this this 2 new languages to VS Express 2008. I personally think, the support for this two languages will be welcomed by mass developers, who are keen to enter .Net with their Python and Ruby background.
  
  Sorry for troubling you always with my questions regarding dynamic languages, But the fact is... I always wanted dynamic language support within my .Net 3.5 framework and finally my prayers are heard.
  
  Cant wait more to try my hands on this.
  
  SoftMind Technology
  

• Hi Softmind,
  
  >>>>>>>> Congratulations to your team. Now Asp.Net will be used by 4 communities (1) C# (2) VB.Net (3) IronRuby and (4) IronPython. I would like to know more about your plans for supporting this this 2 new languages to VS Express 2008. I personally think, the support for this two languages will be welcomed by mass developers, who are keen to enter .Net with their Python and Ruby background.
  
  I believe we will be showing using ASP.NET MVC with IronRuby and IronPython later this week at TechEd. I don't think we've finalized what the tooling support will be - but you will be able to use these as language options with ASP.NET.
  
  Hope this helps,
  
  Scott
  

• Do you have to uninstall vs2008 web dev express first before installing the beta??
  Because i can't get past the 3.5 sp1 part of the install. It just hangs and finally dumps.
  Any ideas??
  

• Great,
  This is the very cool feature..
  Fine to hear that MVC support in VS 2008 SP1 and also without SP1.
  

• Thank you very much!
  

• Scottu sir
  
  Does this my problem or just some bug of webclient!!
  
  When webclient run as this procedure can not download the right thing.
  
  1.Upload a file to server with http.
  
  2.Download file with webclient and save to isolatestorge.(Right now it work well)
  
  3.Upload a new edition of the file to server(It been successfully upload,bz I have opened it and view the content)
  
  4.Download the file again with webclient (It could not work well now ,The downloaded file remain as same as the old version,Not the uploaded one)
  
  It seem webclient using some buffer to process file ,so maybe i need to clear the buffer manual first?
  
  Best Regard
  

• Hi Scott,
  
  Could you, please, do something about the problem with upgrading Visual Studio 2008 Trial described here
  http://devblog.ailon.org/devblog/post/2008/05/Why-is-it-so-Fing-Difficult-to-Buy-Visual-Studio!.aspx
  
  Thanks,
  Alan.
  

• As a great fan of Express Editions I am really glad these features are added at last. Especially the lack of class library projects was a great drawback of Visual Web Developer.
  
  I've think that we're not in 90s anymore and IDEs should be free. While I think Visual Studio is the greatest IDE out there, there are tools that are almost as good like Eclipse and JDeveloper. In any case the price difference is not justified. I hope Visual Studio Express becomes the stepping stone for making higher editions of VS a free download.
  

• Hi Scott..
  Any Silverlight news... (please? ;)
  

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• Will VWD Express be able to open solutions created with Visual Studio Pro that contain class library projects or it will only work with class libraries projects created by VWD Express itself? Right now it only loads the web projects and gives an error for the class libraries.
  

• Great news - thanks Scott.
  
  It's especially good to see the IronRuby/IronPython moving along with asp.net mvc - this will make for a even 'greater' mvc framework with this dynamic language capability
  

• Scott,
  
  One thing that I noticed is that with SP1 this is the first time that I couldn't have both VS and VWD installed on the same machine. I realize that this is not a normal requirement, but as a developer who also teaches, I prefer dev'ing using VS2k8 Pro, but teaching in VWD (so that students can be assured that I'm not doing anything they can't do w/ the free product).
  
  I can work around it w/ VMs, but it was just a surprise that the VS team would add in that restriction kind of on the sly (or maybe I just didn't see it published anywhere)
  

• Hi,
  
  I have an existing WebSite Project and didn't want to convert it to WebApplication. So I installed MVC without SP1 on VWD Express 2008. I then merge the web.config, put the Controllers in the APP_Code, and added a .* extension mapping in iis 5.1. I did some Routing and as far as I can tell it works. So is there anything else that might break?
  
  Thanks
  

• Hi Adam,
  
  >>>>>> Do you have to uninstall vs2008 web dev express first before installing the beta?? Because i can't get past the 3.5 sp1 part of the install. It just hangs and finally dumps.
  
  You shouldn't need to. If you can send me email (scottgu@microsoft.com) I can have someone look into it for you and figure out what the issue is.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Scott
  

• Hi Alan,
  
  >>>>>> Could you, please, do something about the problem with upgrading Visual Studio 2008 Trial described here
  
  Thanks for forwarding this - I will follow up with the setup team to try and understand what they are running into.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Scott
  

• Hi Arnoud,
  
  >>>>>>>> Any Silverlight news... (please? ;)
  
  We'll have some Silverlight news shortly. :-)
  
  Thanks,
  
  Scott
  

• >>>>>>> What do I do with this error
  
  
  This looks like you might be trying to run a .NET 3.5 application on a .NET 2.0 systems that doesn't have it installed.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Scott
  

• Hi NaibStilgar,
  
  >>>>>>> Will VWD Express be able to open solutions created with Visual Studio Pro that contain class library projects or it will only work with class libraries projects created by VWD Express itself? Right now it only loads the web projects and gives an error for the class libraries.
  
  Yes - the solution files should be able to open class library and web application projects just fine across both Visual Studio and Visual Web Developer Express (once SP1 is installed).
  
  Thanks,
  
  Scott
  

• Hi Paul,
  
  >>>>>>>> One thing that I noticed is that with SP1 this is the first time that I couldn't have both VS and VWD installed on the same machine. I realize that this is not a normal requirement, but as a developer who also teaches, I prefer dev'ing using VS2k8 Pro, but teaching in VWD (so that students can be assured that I'm not doing anything they can't do w/ the free product). I can work around it w/ VMs, but it was just a surprise that the VS team would add in that restriction kind of on the sly (or maybe I just didn't see it published anywhere)
  
  We actually require that both VS and VWD have SP1 installed, or neither of them have SP1 installed. So if you download the SP1 for both VS 2008 and Visual Web Developer Express it will work fine side by side. The reason for requiring both SPs to be installed is because there are some shared binary files between the two products - and so keeping them consistent is required.
  
  Hope this helps,
  
  Scott
  

• Hi Mnn888,
  
  >>>>>>>> I have an existing WebSite Project and didn't want to convert it to WebApplication. So I installed MVC without SP1 on VWD Express 2008. I then merge the web.config, put the Controllers in the APP_Code, and added a .* extension mapping in iis 5.1. I did some Routing and as far as I can tell it works. So is there anything else that might break?
  
  Yes - you can do this as well and use ASP.NET MVC with a web-site project.
  
  Hope this helps,
  
  Scott
  

• Hi Tim,
  
  >>>>>>>> So, I won't be downloading SP1. But the free products you provide have taught me how to code and, when it comes right down to it, I am sincerely grateful that you will be updating the Express version of Visual Studio, notwithstanding my occasional frustration.
  
  Sorry you are running into these setup issues. I agree this is definitely an area we need to improve - and it is something we are focusing on making better. Once SP1 is released we'll have an option to download a version of Visual Web Developer 2008 Express that already has SP1 applied - so that you don't need to run it separately.
  
  Hope this helps,
  
  Scott
  

• Hi Scott,
  
  Thanks for the reply
  
  >>>>>> Could you, please, do something about the problem with upgrading Visual Studio 2008 Trial described here
  
  >>> Thanks for forwarding this - I will follow up with the setup team to try and understand what they are running into.
  
  However the issue is not with installation but with the fact that it's just isn't possible to buy a key online to convert VS2008 Trial to a "normal" version even though it's stated in several places on Microsoft's site that it's an option. And the "Upgrade" button in VS "About" dialog leads to a missing location (Content not found).
  
  Best regards,
  Alan.
  

• >>>>> We actually require that both VS and VWD have SP1 installed, or neither of them have SP1 installed
  
  Scott, this does not map to my experience with the install. I had no problem installing VS 2k8 SP 1 while VWD (Sp0) was installed, but VWD SP1 would not install after VS 2k8 SP 1 was installed.
  

• Hi Scott,
  
  You mentioned in the last post that you would be posting a comprehensive MVC tutorial ? Is this still coming ?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Andy
  

• I use the MVP model provided by the Web Client Software Factory.
  How does this model differ to the above.
  
  

• Can you explain about this..?
  

• Scott you say "Silverlight project support with VWD Express". When will this appear?
  

• Hi Scott.
  First off all, great work with the MVC framework.
  
  Regarding the usage of the MVC with the VWD, i'm having troubles getting it working "together" with the Dynamic Data assemblies. It seems that the Dynamic Data Assemblies are using a later version of the System.Web.Abstractions and the System.Web.Routing assemblies.
  
  This is the error i get:
  Assembly 'System.Web.DynamicData, Version=3.5.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=31bf3856ad364e35' uses 'System.Web.Abstractions, Version=3.5.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=31bf3856ad364e35' which has a higher version than referenced assembly 'System.Web.Abstractions, Version=0.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=31bf3856ad364e35' c:\Program Files\Reference Assemblies\Microsoft\Framework\v3.5\System.Web.DynamicData.dll
  
  Any solution to this?
  
  Best Regards,
  Bruno
  

• Hi Scott,
  
  The mvc project runs in vs 2008 but fails to run in iis 5.1 giving error (HTTP 404 - File not found).
  
  Thanks
  Ajay
  
  

• Will you be adding designer support for the Html helpers in the future?
  

• Great, when do you plan to release Visual Studio 2008 SP1?